Macfanatics and Greenpeace collide on Apple's Maiden Data Center

MacRumors has a post on Greenpeace's position on Apple's Maiden Data Center.  Much of what is referenced comes from Data Center Knowledge.

Greenpeace announced yesterday that it has prepared an updated report on Apple's energy usage based on the new information, but as noted by Data Center Knowledge's Rich Miller, the group still seems to be being overly critical in its grading of Apple, even continuing to make up its own estimates of the North Carolina data center's energy usage rather than believing Apple's public statements.

In its initial report in April, Greenpeace estimated Apple’s power use in North Carolina at a whopping 100 megawatts. The group has reduced that slightly to 81 megawatts, dismissing the company’s disclosure that it expects draw about 20 megawatts at full capacity.

You can read the post to get a pro-Apple position vs. Greenpeace.

Another post by GigaOm's Katie Fehrenbacher goes into more detail on the Greenpeace position.

 

On the face of it, Apple’s steps are huge news in the world of data center operators, which for a long time have not been willing to pay a premium for clean power. Instead, most data center builders seek out locations that have cheap (and often times coal-based) power — like North Carolina, which has a grid that runs largely off of coal and nuclear. North Carolina has been able to attract a cluster of some of the largest data centers in the world whose owners want to buy its cheap and reliable power.

But Greenpeace still says that Apple isn’t being transparent about how it will reach those clean power goals. Greenpeace didn’t raise Apple’s score on “transparency” at all, and it kept its “D” grade in the update to the report. Greenpeace did raise Apple’s score for “infrastructure siting” to a D (from an F), “energy efficiency and green house gas mitigation” to a C (from a D) and “renewable energy investment and advocacy” to a C (from a D). Apple has now basically “passed,” but still trails behind companies like Google and Facebook in the ranking system.

But, then I read the comments on the MacRumors site.  I think it is pretty clear these people love their Apple products more than Greenpeace.  I don't think Greenpeace has ever attacked a company with a customer loyalty so high to criticize Greenpeace itself.  This is going to be interesting to see played out over the years.

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4 hours ago at 09:51 am
Greenpiss just wants attention and publicity.
Rating: 34 Positives
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4 hours ago at 09:53 am
Greenpeace won't be happy until people stop using electricity. They are just a bunch of luddites.
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4 hours ago at 09:54 am
Those nutjobs lose credibility with junk like this
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4 hours ago at 09:54 am
Greenpeace has been working hard for years to make themselves irrelevant.
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4 hours ago at 09:54 am
Greenpeace again proves that it is completely worthless. Nothing but attention whores.
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4 hours ago at 10:07 am
I'd love to see a green report done on Greenpeace. I'm willing to bet they are hypocrites.
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4 hours ago at 09:55 am

Greenpiss just wants attention and publicity.


I agree. I used to like greenpeace but they've become nothing but publicity hounds while disregarding the truth.
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4 hours ago at 09:57 am
They, among countless others, have made Green the new Red.
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4 hours ago at 10:05 am
Greenpeace, masters of PR, have learned what so many other media whores have learned: Criticize Apple and you will get headlines.
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3 hours ago at 10:16 am
Greenpeace will be pleased to learn that my V-16 Maybach runs on liquified poor people.
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Final part of GigaOm's NC data center features behind the scenes story of Apple's iCloud Data Center

GigaOm's Katie Fehrenbacher finishes her 4 part series with a behind the scenes story on Apple's iCloud data center.

The story behind how Apple’s iCloud data center got built

This article is the fourth in a four-part series that we’re publishing this week.

Apple’s new $1 billion data center — one of the highest-profile new data centers in the world — has put the town of Maiden, North Carolina (population: just over 3,000) on the tech map. But it almost didn’t get built.

Video if you like Data Centers and Racing - 2011 Le Mans Triple Redundancy wins with one car

Audi has created a video documentary of their 2011 Le Mans win that will appeal to those who think about triple redundancy, operations, and designing for unexpected events.

The video is free on iTunes and you can download it here.

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I have this video on my MacBook Pro Retina to show how nice the display is.  The story that the data center crowd will like is how a three car strategy changes when only one car is left.

The film TRUTH IN 24 II documents the tenth and arguably most emotional triumph of the brand with the four rings at this sports car classic. After two Audi R18 TDI cars have retired following spectacular accidents, the remaining Audi fights a dramatic battle for overall victory with the three Peugeot 908 cars which the Audi trio ultimately decides in its favor with a narrow margin of 13 seconds. The film captures the entire drama of the fourth-narrowest running of the Le Mans 24 Hours with intimate insights into the team of Audi Sport and breath-taking pictures.

Here is a 60 second teaser of the video.

Green Data Center in NC featuring Apple, Google, and Facebook

GigaOm's Katie Fehrenbacher has a detailed state of the green data center story in NC featuring Apple, Google, and Facebook.

The controversial world of clean power and data centers

Poles dot the dusty solar farm, which will eventually hold solar panels.

This article is the third in a four-part series that we’re publishing this week.

Over the past several years, a couple-hundred-mile area north of Charlotte, North Carolina, has emerged as a new hub for massive data centers that power the Internet, attracting industry heavyweights like Apple, Google and Facebook. North Carolina has been able win over those companies despite the fact it generates its power largely from dirty coal and nuclear, which runs counter to a general trend toward a desire for greener sources of energy.

The post is long, but a quick read.  Here is the main point that highlights Apple vs. Google vs. Facebook.

Grid-connected vs off-grid clean power

At this point, Apple seems to mostly stand alone in its desire to build such massive clean power plants next to a data center. The only other firm to announce that it will tackle something similar is eBay. Last month eBay announced that it would build an extension to one of its data centers in Utah that would run off 30 fuel cells, powered by biogas, and use the grid as backup power.

Google’s data center in Lenoir

Google has arguably been the most innovative and aggressive web business when it comes to clean power. But Google’s Demasi told me that Google has “a basic philosophy that renewable energy should be provided through the utility.”

Likewise Facebook’s VP of Site Operations Tom Furlong, told me: “The utility is the obvious location [for clean power]. It would be a lot easier if the utility came to the site with 20 percent renewables and said this is our mix.” Facebook’s sustainability guru Bill Weihl (formerly of Google) emphasizes that Facebook is still working out its strategy for clean power for data centers and he isn’t ruling out onsite clean-power generation. But Weihl also says he’s interested in one day possibly creating an industry trade group that could help bring together companies to influence utilities’ grid choices through the group purchasing of clean power.

 

Note that Greenpeace is planning an update tomorrow.

While questions still remain about how exactly Apple will meet its 100 percent clean power data centers goals (see Greenpeace report out tomorrow),  Apple is clearly acting as a pioneer.

Wouldn't it be great if Data Center and Clouds were like an REI Guarantee

I've been in Seattle for 20 years and one of the old time Seattleites conversation is around how low their REI number is. What?

REI assigns member numbers consecutively, they are serial numbers. Yesterday I was checking out at Seattle Main Store and the guy said, that is a low number, do you know when you signed up? I said can't remember, so he looked it up. June, 1967. My number is mid 5 digits. As I remember the store had already moved from Downtown up to Capitol Hill, in a building at 11th and Pine that is now home to a Bianchi bicycle dealer. There was only one store, and they sold a lot of army surplus and cheap but good stuff that kept you "warm even when wet", which was a common condition-wet was anyway. It was known as The Coop, and Coops of various kinds have a long history in Seattle. They had then as they do now a policy of "if it fails, bring it back". Now there are many stores, and I called and was told that new members are assigned numbers >7 million. I read in a Seattle Times article that after the Pike Place Public Market, the new downtown REI store is the #2 Seattle tourist attraction.

 

Part of the fanaticism is the REI Guarantee.  REI stands behind everything they sell.

The REI Guarantee

We stand behind everything we sell. If at any time your REI purchase doesn't meet your expectations, you can return it for a replacement or refund. What's more, if you're an REI member, you don’t even need a receipt—we'll have a record of your purchase.

http://www.rei.com/help/guarantee.html#ooid=g2OTFjMjrNwNqnO_CToUcx8sZsK8ZtKK

We have been outfitting outdoor adventurers since 1938. And in that time, we've learned a lot about what makes great gear. Our employees continually use all the gear we have to do the same activities that you do—from weekend day hikes to ascents in the Himalayas.

With recent outages wouldn't' it be great if there was a cloud provider that had the same customer loyalty and trivia on how low your number was because they have a guarantee like REI?